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Welcome Don G. to the Blog!

Jehardy — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:06:16 -0400

Welcome Don, and we hope to hear more of your thoughts.

Has everyone seen this article?

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3952

I'll insert one paragraph. I've been chewing on this for a bit:

"The current US energy strategy, driven by the erroneous beliefs that oil is a fossil fuel and that its supply will soon be exhausted, and that burning coal causes global warming, is illogical. Given the fact that oil is abiotic and is in continuous production deep down in the earth’s crust, at rates far in excess of what mankind could ever conceivably consume, it makes absolutely no sense for any nation to buy it from foreign sources if it is cheaper to drill for and pump its own – and that is precisely what the US should be doing immediately, without ever needing to go near the wildlife reserves in Alaska. "

A penny for all of your thoughts!? (I'm not sure why this post says August 11th, yet I'm just seeing it now? )

Judy

The non energy crisis.

Don G. — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:04:07 -0400

If you people think you are angry now you should listen to what Lindsey Williams has to say. He worked as a Chaplin on the Alaskan pipeline. He lived and worked with the people who built the pipeline and he rubbed shoulders with the executives and sat in on board meeting. He has an amazing story to tell and you should all head to u-tube and search him out. I promise you, you will be some angry when you are done listening to what he has to say.

The oil companies in Prudhoe Bay found an oil field with enough crude and gas to supply our country for the next 200 years, the reports were ordered classified, the rig ordered removed and the well capped. Our country can be energy independent in no time if only they were allowed to pump it out of the ground and pipe it to us. Next year gas could cost as little as a dollar a gallon and we would be free of the Middle East and all the hate, death and bloodshed that goes with it. Wake up people, pressure your representatives, we don’t need more drilling; we just need to pump out what we have already found and become a free country once again.

Bill - Delete this if you

C. dog e. doG — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:23:16 -0400

Bill -

Delete this if you can.

Bush is not a conservative!

C. dog e. doG — Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:34:03 -0400

Bill -

No conservative am I, and neither do I think W. Bush is. His track record is long and liberal on many a legislative and enforcement front. He and Billy-Bob Clinton have more in common than not. This thread is nearing (has already attained) its useful live, but this may be a worthy topic for another post-fest.

- Contemplating the intricacies of Conservatism from my crag in the rocks,

C. dog e. doG

Hey

Bill Bunker — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:37:57 -0400

Hey guys, I have been out of the loop all week but good conversation and Mike seems to illustrate the lack of willingness to debate with facts, point to point from some on the left.

The rest are just ignoring this back and forth because they dismiss it. It used to be that liberals wanted the debate and discussion and conservatives took the other approach.

It is humorous see that the tables have turned. I guess the question begs, do we want people who are ready to discuss and debate, striving for consensus running the country or people who just want to finger point and chant slogans and talking points.

I hope all Americans are aware of the differences. I agree with progressives that Bush has done a pretty poor job, but that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater and stereotype all conservatives, painting them with the same brush.

I would go point to point with any progressive, anywhere and anytime. I would not win every point but they would not either. That is called compromise and building consensus, however, it seems that some citizens are not interested in that.

Scott, Dog and Judy, let's keep it logical and factual....let others express their points with emotion......we need to keep embracing the need for debate and try (although it is nearly impossible) to get some discussion going on....point by point discussion!

That is the only way that we will unite as a country. And..........at least one side is uninterested.

Do you want to have a conversation???

Scott Ives — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:21:07 -0400

Michael,

Is it your preference to continue with outrageous and inflammatory statements that really lead nowhere... Tell me what you believe and the reasons why you believe what you do. Present the facts that support your belief, and we can have a great conversation. I might even agree with you from time to time.

At a minimum I will respect your ability to frame an intelligent defense of your beliefs. Continue on your current path and we are only left with who is able to disarm the other with the most aplomb and whether mercy should be shown in the dispatch.

I look forward to seeing you at your intellectual best.

Scott

Mikey the Marm

C. dog e. doG — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:20:56 -0400

Remember Mikey -

The ninny nanny state whose apron strings you tie everyday requires the imbecility of its subjects, as you so well know being a former government schoolmarm.

- Recalling Imus's great line about the Grateful Dead: "we will be when they are",

C. dog e. doG

Reagan was an imbecile,

Michael Evans — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:31:29 -0400

Reagan was an imbecile, nothing more, IMHO. But you're certainly entitled to worship him if you want. Like a friend once said, it's always best to say something good about the dead. Reagan is dead. Good.

Obama for President in Germany

Scott Ives — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:39:23 -0400

Obama: People of Berlin - people of the world - this is our moment. This is our time.

They love him I say he should go for it. President Merkel....Beware!

Contrasts

Scott Ives — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:31:07 -0400

You be the judge...

Reagan: "I, in my own mind, have always thought of America as a place in the divine scheme of things that was set aside as a promised land. It was set here and the price of admission was very simple: the means of selection was very simple as to how this land should be populated. Any place in the world and any person from those places; any person with the courage, with the desire to tear up their roots, to strive for freedom, to attempt and dare to live in a strange and foreign place, to travel halfway across the world was welcome here."

Obama: It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

Reagan: Mr Gorbachev...Tear down that wall!

Obama: Have you seen the price of Arugula?

Query, if Ronald Reagan was a senile old man why do so many from the left rush to compare Obama to Reagan??? Hmmmmmmm...

Corruption starts in Hearts of Scarecrows

C. dog e. doG — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:57:12 -0400

Gee Mikey -

If all this were true, sounds like your kind of hero. Maybe he was a third-term abortion "Dr." too! Be still, your heart.

Perhaps age is catching up to you as you think it is to McCain. Rememba' that little jumble of brick, mortar, and barbed wire that used to surround Berlin? Rememba' stagflation - an odd mixture of near-hyper inflation coupled with substantial unemployment? Rememba' that? And rememba' marginal tax rates were substantially higher upon Ronnie entering office than when he left? By the way, how's your revisionist histoire noire progressing on Ronnie's presidency? I bet the "public" school apparatchik can't wait to use it as their history text book for the 80's.

- Just rememba'ing Reagan was only half bad, which is twice as good as the rest,

C. dog e. doG

So exactly what did Reagan

Michael Evans — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:06:00 -0400

So exactly what did Reagan do for the country? He raised taxes, began the bankrupting of America, and fell asleep during cabinet meetings. Oh, he also ate a lot of jelly beans. Beyond that, I can't see that the man did that much. I know you right wingers loved the senile old bird. He certainly wasn't a standard bearer of "family values" IMHO. His dear wife, who rumor says slept her way to the top of the movie studies, used an astrologer to make decisions. LOL. Then there was the corrupt Iran-Contra affair. At least the Reagan administration wasn't as corrupt as the Bush Crime Family.

Growing up with Reagan

Scott Ives — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 08:09:19 -0400

I worked for Reagan on three campaigns, I cast my first presidential vote for him and we could sure use the Gipper now!

Scott

Good Questions, Scott..

Jehardy — Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:13:22 -0400

Progressivism (If that's a word) seemed to start out from people wishing to make goverment and the working world better (and better managed)? for all people.

The New Deal, Power to the People, yadda, yadda. Like secular liberalism, and the decline of the "People's Party" - it seems the progressive movement has slowly moved into something that still sounds good on the surface, but has morphed into something much more sinister underneath. I bet Bill has more insight on this.

I feel the character and approach has changed sharply.

In my limited political experience, I'd always leaned Republican since Ronald Reagan (There we go again..) - but I used to consider myself much more liberal, or at least I thought I did. Both of my parents were Democrats when I was growing up. My Dad has become a hard-core conservative in the past 10 years or so. (Phwew). My sister's an all out liberal. Makes holiday discussion interesting and downright dangerous at times. Ha ha..

The 9-11 attacks for me personally, were a HUGE wake up call that made me see things much differently.

Judy

Question about Progressives

Scott Ives — Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:11:26 -0400

If they call themselves progressives, why do they still promote the same 60 year old policies from the 30's and 1940's? I mean since the root word is progress shouldn't they be talking about new ideas? Just saying.

Scott

Sneaky Agenda...This is what is wrong with Congress

Bill Bunker — Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:08:31 -0400

Below is a very interesting piece that I picked up on line. In parentheses are my comments. It illustrates what is wrong with Congress and how some people are just not picking up on what is really going on: