Immigration, Economics & Stolen Land

Dear Susan, Lets see?????? I'm 55 years old now and I started to work when I was thirteen. I've seen a "constant" thru these years, but I have never known the reason why until a few minutes ago. My taxes on every level, and in every way, have gone up each year, So has my insurance, my clothing bill, my energy bill, my mortgage bill, my prescription drug bill, my grocery bill, my entertainment bill, my education bill, my newspaper bill, my cable bill, my communications bill, my vacation bill and I think that I pay more for less now than I ever have. My pay has gone up, but not as fast as inflation. In fact the only thing that I know of that has gone down is the value of my dollar bills. And all this time, the fault has been Mexico's. I mean no offense, and I offer this only in respect to your opinion-- It is a lot easier for me to think of the here and now of individuals than to speculate that the Mexican, or for that matter the USA, is going to change their politics or their economics in the forseeable future.

I would also contend that fairness is not the only major issue that needs to be considered. How about being humane? Sometimes it is easy to generalize about laws, about what corrupt governments should do, the hard working American Workforce, etc.... The possibilty of the Mexican Government changing their stripes seems remote... as also is the posture of some of the Mexican academia. We will not give up our land. I know I don't have the important answers on this issue. I would just like to not lose sight that the illegal immigrants are more than a genealization. They are human beings. They are also already moved in. Rhetoric is not liable to solve the problem. Maybe a more comprehensive strategy is? I am open to that. Dan Meeks

Patricia Cummings

If one listens to the media, one would think that our only problem in this country is newly arrived immigrants...particularly those from Mexico. There are many other so-called "illegal-es" here, from many countries, perhaps up to twenty million of them.

Having attended the Immigrant Rally in Manchester on May 1, I could clearly see that all who were there were reverent toward this country, were here because they love freedom and they want a new life, and moreover, they WANT to work and are working! They are trying to learn English because they know that to survive here, they must do so!

For those who would be given a beautiful yellow rose bud, but would only choose to see the thorns, well...these are the naysayers of the world. They have their own agendas, not the LEAST of which is thier political views.

These are the people who think that every Mexican is either a drug dealer, a pregnant woman about to give birth in order to have an "anchor" baby, as the child would be called by some in Texas, or the person is just here to run up the cost of living for the rest of us.

As Dan points out, there is a human element to all of this. If you lived in a country where there was a tree full of rotten apples that were so wormy, there was no hope of making a pie with them, but on the other side of the fence, there was a beautiful apple tree, laden down with large, succulent apples that would make a tasty pie, which side of the fence would you try to be on? Mexico needs new incentives to keep their populace at home. That goes for Venezuela, Costa Rica, Guatemala, and so many other Latin American countries that have people dying to emigrate to the United States.

Calderon is the new president of Mexico. He has initially given voice to plans to strengthen Mexico economically. Let's hope this is the case. Little children should not be saying that they want to grow up to be "just like Daddy" and leave their home village to go work in America.

In New Hampshire, we have a large entourage of people from "somewhere else." On Fisherville Rd. alone, there are many, many people who appear to be from Africa, and they dress in very bright and colorful attire.

By last estimate, there were more than two hundred different languages spoken in the city. Some of the immigrants are here because they have been sponsored by local churches.

New Hampshire has a diverse population now, particularly in our larger cities. It is clear that it is not economically feasible to try to "send these people" all back. Proposals by Congress have been, at times, totally unreasonable, involving sending people back, making them "wait in line," allowing them to work, sending them back. What a yo-yo idea, in more ways than one. Talk about disrupting people's lives and punishing them, not once, but repeatedly. Idiocy!

At the same time, I can understand the viewpoint of Texans, to some extent, and those who live in the four border states. Their frustration is apparent if one listens to the newly formed urban myths that are flying fast and furious about such things as a welfare mother pulling to collect her food stamps in her expensive SUV, paid for by the state. Not likely. I also wonder if the extra costs of health care that are being discussed are not a bit over-inflated.

The immigrants, in fact, DO pay taxes. If they are working for a legitimate employer, they pay social security, federal and state income tax, and like the rest of us, they pay sales taxes, rooms and meal taxes, etc.

The employers who hire illegal immigrants should be the ones being fined and ostracized.

There is just a lot of misunderstanding and confusion and false allegations against people who are easily profiled as being non-U.S. natives. Just one word about the word "illegal."

The strongest detractors grab ahold of the word and won't let it go. Do we not, as a nation, have some responsibility toward these same people who were allowed to come here, or overstayed their visas but were not reminded to go home?

If we have turned our backs so that these same workers could be exploited, or used by our system, to make money for a few, it seems that they are not entirely to blame and it also is unfair to call them "criminals."

The money that is being wasted, "your" money, is in building walls, in lieu of more direct negotiation with the Mexican government. It seems unlikely that any wall could be made impenetrable.

People can either go over a wall, or under a wall, or around a wall, and maybe even through a wall. Or, they will find alternative routes as some have found already, such as through sewer pipes, on their bellies.

The money spent on walls could go along way toward alleviating the suffering of many. If not used in that manner, it sure would be great to see a balanced federal budget again, as we had under President Clinton.

Yes, in a political year, rhetoric abounds. A lot of it makes no sense. I have to think that if the government were more concerned with PEOPLE, rather than with bureaucratic POLICIES, we would be a whole lot better off.

Everyone has an opinion. The above are a few of mine.

Sincerely,

Patricia Cummings
http://www.quiltersmuse.com

Is this concerted effort on behalf of the Democratic & Republican coalition to implement the (NAU) North American Union? The first stage was to flood our country, with a monolithic tide of foreign nationals, followed by the unrestricted movement of Mexican trucks. Is this an intentional de-construction of the U.S. sovereignty? Is Senator Graham an International Globalist’s, along with McCain, Lott, Specter and his Royal Highness Bush and his retinue of corporate mafiosi?
The Council of La Raza (The Race) a radical, anarchistic organization that the U.S. Taxpayer supports with their call to occupy the Southwest, with a silent invasion of foreign national's is furious. Their sponsors in our shadow corporate government were outgunned this time by the American citizens. They woke up just in time to recognize the menace to our flag, U.S. constitution and our culture. But, alas the fight is not over yet? Let’s enforce the laws of the 1986 Immigration reform bill, as they are codified and already for fulfillment.

Go, read and judge for yourself:
www.judicialwatch.org
www.numbersusa.com
http://stopspp.com/stopspp/c
http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
http://www.idexer.com/
http://libertypost.org/index.shtml

The American Southwest was explored and colonized by SPAIN. California was explored and colonized by SPAIN in 1542. Spain gave California to Mexico. Approximately two years later, Alta California VOLUNTARILY ceded from Mexican semi-rule and joined the United States. Since California became part of America, Mexico’s had about multi bloody REVOLUTIONS. Mexico was not recognized as a legitimate country/nation until the early 1900’s. Texas VOLUNTARILY seceded from Mexico by winning its own independence in 1836. Subsequent to winning its own independence, Texas joined the United States along with Territories of New Mexico and Arizona approximately 1845-1847. (used as staging grounds for foraying renegade outlaws) were sparsely populated badlands that were eventually absorbed into the United States. Border settled by war, treaty, and payment. Mexico never actually controlled the American Southwest, as it was too far north. No more than 2000 so-called Mexicans ever lived in the American Southwest. Those so-called Mexicans (Spanish colonizers and Catholic priests) were not forced to leave or give up their Ranches and missions upon becoming Americans. And the Native American Indians of the Southwest do not remember ever having been Mexican citizens or a mythical Azatlyanians [sic]. Mexico was explored, colonized, and named by SPAIN. I.e., the countries of Mexico and the United States were both similarly formed by European exploration and colonization. The only nation that might have a claim to the American Southwest is European SPAIN. “Spain would have title” Not the Conquesta’s, Not Azatlyn,

Not the country South of the border where 99 percent of its people live in abject poverty, while the 1 % live like Sultans.

AZCONSERVATIVE

Last night in the debate, McCain claimed he was not for amnesty and quoted a dictionary definition of amnesty meaning "forgiveness". I agree the word has been incorrectly used, but he is for a "path to citizenship" for those that have entered our country illegally, and I call that amnesty. If you want to have to speak Spanish to conduct you daily activities , if you want 27 people living in the house next door, if you want all your teachers to have to create programs for Spanish speakers, you will vote for McCain in the upcoming primary.  I live in Phoenix, and McCain wants open borders with Mexico and he does mind if this whole country turns into a giant barrio. He has a lot of friends that have gotten rich hiring these illegals.

Life can be fair if we want it to be, its all up to us, we decide, its called politics. When we have leaders like Kennedy and Carter , life becomes more fair, when we have leaders like Bush and Reagan, life becomes less fair. In a democracy the people are ultimately responsible for their leader's actions, we elect them and we have the power to impeach them and if they don't listen to us we can protest in the streets till they do.

Bush has slowly been turning our democracy into a tyranny and we have become scared, no wonder, you can be tazered for protesting an illegal and immoral war, you can be arrested for refusing the wishes of a police officer even if the police officer asks you to do something immoral or unreasonable.

The immigrant is the new jew! Republicans are looking for a scapegoat for all the problems they created, just like the Nazis chose to blame all their problems on the Jews. The more a candidat talks about immigration the more I see a future fascist. Immigration did not invade Iraq and give us a 9 trillion dollar debt, a falling dollar and impending recession...immigration did not cause the housing crisis, immigrants don't torture or build concentration camps like Guantanamo and Abu Graib, etc....Immigrants are the new Jews pure and simple. Be careful what you ask for people because after they go after the immigrants they go after you!

I am an Independent.  I am also a member of numerous anti-illegal websites/forums.

Tom Tancredo has dropped from the race, due to his concern about the Huckabee lies/surge in Iowa.  Tom has endorsed Mitt Romney.

PLEASE do not fall for the lies of McCain, Huckabee, Guliani, Clinton, Obama, or Edwards in regard to the illegals----ALL of them will reward the illegals for breaking our laws.  ALL of them will make it "appear" as if they are going to do something, but in reality they will not!!!  They will just make all of them legal, so that there are no more illegals!!

PLEASE PLEASE do not fall for their tricks!!  The future for you, your children, your grandchildren, and our country is at stake!!

If Tom Tancredo endorsed Romney, he feels that he is the BEST choice to get the job done.

Together, we can take back our country!!

Please join thousands of US citizens from throughout the country who are trying to save the US for US citizens and LEGAL immigrants---by joining the following sites/forums!!!

http://www.alipac.us

http://www.numbersusa.com

John McCain will give all of the illegals amnesty!!  He wants to make sure that there is a constant supply of cheap, illegal labor flowing into this country for his corporate buddies!!!!

Guliani, Huckabee, Clinton, Obama and Edwards will also reward the illegals for breaking our laws----AMNESTY!!  PLEASE do not fall for their tricks.  They will use word "games" to make it appear as if they are doing something----but their plan is to make them all legal, so that we have no more illegals.

Is this fair to the legal immigrants???  Is this fair to the millions of people throughout the world who have been waiting in line---trying to come into this country through the proper, legal process????? 

Anybody who wants to see the reality of what is happening to our country due to the illegals-----needs to take some time and visit Arizona, Texas, California, Colorado, Utah, etc................

---The illegals are taking the jobs of US citizens (why are they going to hire a US citizen when they can pay lower wages with NO benefits)

---The illegals are lowering the wages in many occupations (especially plumbing, electricians, landscapers, dry wallers--and all other construction occupations).

---The illegals are taking the jobs that used to go to our teenagers---or housewives and elderly--- that need to pick up some parttime work to make ends meet (fast food, grocery stores, hotels, etc.).

---The illegals are destroying the schools (the tax money of US citizens is being spent on tutors, translators, ESL classes, etc. for the children of illegals---eliminating many programs, tools, etc. for the children of US citizens----when they paid the school taxes!!!).

---The illegals are destroying hospitals (the illegals are not paying for healthcare benefits, so they are using the hospitals for their primary care doctors.  The hospitals pass on this expense to tax paying citizens.  In five years, 80 hospitals/clinics, etc. were forced to close in California due to going bankrupt over the illegals.)

---The illegals are destroying social benefit systems such as welfare, WIC, foodstamps, etc.  (PLEASE don't fall for the lies that illegals cannot get these benefits---They can buy whatever fraudulent documents they need for less than $75, which lets them get these benefits.  Or, they steal the name/identity/SS number of US citizens!!!)

---The illegals are destroying the lives of many US citizens by stealing their names/identities/SS numbers.  US citizens are forced to pay thousands of dollars toward attorney fees to get their credit, IRS debts, driving records cleared up.

Only Duncan Hunter, Fred Thompson and Ron Paul have the right credentials, to stop the disasterous period of red ink. Alas, we cannot trust any Democrats to stop the illegal alien invasion, because their pandering for votes during the occupation of our nation. Even McCain destroyed his chances when he joined up with ultra-liberal Ted Kennedy to pass a mammoth immigration bill. We would have had millions of illegal aliens in our Social Security system, who never paid into it.

Taxpayers must stand with any official, who is willing to go that extra mile; no matter the political consequences. Very few politicians have the backbone to consumate the majority will of THE PEOPLE. They have become panderers to corporate and globalist open-border, unfair free-traders favors. America can no longer afford the $2 trillion dollar a year, to support the pariah contractors and businesses that hire illegal immigrants. They themselves receive all the profit, and the taxpayers gets the bill for hospitals, education and the massive prison appropriations. With between 12 to 20 million illegal aliens already here, with another estimated 17 million turning up on our shores by 2010, we are forced by federal law to subsidise these low income families. Taxpayers fall for this trick all the time, because the government doesn't tell us about food stamps, subsidised housing and a whole cornicopia of other free goodies. Its so easy for the citizen-taxpayer to carry the burden of cost's while the employer walks away. Free trade entities are behind the Bush administration unfettered movement of illegal cheap, foreign labor which is undermining our citizen workers wages. Most U.S. citizens have no concept of tomorrow, with outsourcing of jobs and business to foreign lands, along with the import of millions of people who can't speak our language and most have no wish to assimulate into our society. All but a few of our presidential contenders are not multi-millionaires, that show little interest in proposing laws protect our country from a globalist agenda? Both political parties are to blame, along with the american people for allowing this International globalist plan to continue. Our Industrial base is withering, unless you prefer a service nation? Big business must be held accountable for the destruction of our living standards. Hopefully, THE PEOPLE will show their intentions, starting with the Iowa Caucases and the upcoming New Hampshire Primaries! Are we going to have more of the same, with a depletion of our wealth and an erosion of our society. Or are we going to have fair free-trade and our national borders sealed for security and our prosperity?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." 

- - Abraham Lincoln