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First off, a hello and welcome to my first entry. Enjoy!

 

Student Teacher Grading


For some time now I have been sitting on the curriculum committee here at PSU, as part of my duties of being a senator. A committee member that acts as a liaison to the council on teacher education recently brought forth a disturbing report from that that committee. The problem stems from the fact that the grading of student teaching is handled differently for each department and that part of the grade originates with non-faculty members- the co-operating teachers that the student teacher studies under for a semester. In order to standardize the process several departments have suggest that student teaching be changed from a letter grade to pass-fail.

I have two problems with this idea. The first is somewhat personal. Student teaching is worth twelve (12) credits, no small potatoes. Therefore, how a student teacher performs on during student teaching can have profound effect on his or her GPA. Doing very well could move a student to honors standing, while doing poorly could move a student down. Making the student teaching pass-fail removes it from the calculation of a student’s GPA. That does not seem fair because of the amount of work involved in the process. Pass-fail student teaching has the additional effect of making all graduates of a program equal. I find this to be very offensive. I work very hard to earn good grades and do my best, hard enough to be inducted to KDP, the education honor society. I feel that those who excel should be set apart from those who barely make it through the program. This is most important during the hiring process, when I will want to look as good as possible. Without the different grades, where is the incentive to achieve excellence, if in the end it won’t matter?

My second problem is essentially the same but this time from the view of a potential parent or school administration official. I want to know that the teachers that have charge of my children or that I may be charged with hiring are the best. How will I be able to accurately judge this as a parent or administrator if on the potential teacher’s transcript next to student teaching it simply says “pass”? What does that mean? By how much did this person pass? Granted, a parent would not be looking at a potential teacher’s transcript, but knowing that when a teacher was hired the administration was able to at least in part base their decision on how well that teacher performed as a student teacher is a comforting thought.

The way student teaching is graded now may not be perfect, getting rid of the grading will help no one and hurt everyone.

Alex Martin


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Welcome!

Hi Alex, and welcome to BlogsNH!

I think I'd have to agree with you there, that getting a letter grade for student teaching makes students work their hardest and helps ensure the best quality of teachers. If students are allowed to simply pass, they may just do as little work as needed just to get the "P," and not much more.


Mentoring from a former Teacher

Alex, I have enjoyed your blogs.  I have wanted to write a blog on teaching and education for over a year now.  Your blogs have finally given me the inspiration to do so.  First, I want to wish you success in achieving a teaching position.  Allow me to give you some friendly advice.  I was planning to retire from my last position, but I was let go.  For I am another transplant to New Hampshire and I had not worked in this school for three years as a teacher, so therefore I could be let go without reason.  I had worked in the school for three years, but my first year was as a paraprofessional and that did not count.  Therefore, my advice to you is to make sure the principal is going to be at the school for at least three years after you have received a teacher’s full time contract.   Even though New Hampshire is not a tenured state, the teacher’s union will be more apt to go to bat for you, so the administration will probably not challenge you.   Unless, you have contacts, say in your hometown, or they want you back and there is an opening at the school where you student taught, you will probably end up substituting or taking a paraprofessional position.  This is how I got my first position in Massachusetts and here in New Hampshire as well.   Just another note of advice on this topic based on my own experience, but evidently is also prevalent in other areas of the country as well.  When I was planning to continue in education, which really meant starting all over again, to get recognized in a school system; I came across an ad on Craigslist “Teachers This is for You”.  It was to invite teachers to form a local chapter for the National Association for the Prevention of Teacher Abuse.  This is how the ad read:     “As most teachers with any experience know, the climate of any particular building is set by the principal.  When she or he is intelligent, friendly, respectful, has integrity and even is demanding, most often the professional and non-professional staff will follow with honest and diligent performance…     However, if the principal is demanding but is lacking intelligence, friendliness, respect or integrity, she or he will have employees who do the work, but are not happy with the environment.  In those situations, the principal may become a tyrant who gets results by pressure.  Teachers, wary about their jobs, don’t speak out.  If they do, they become targets for removal from the school by discipline or intimidation. ..” I do agree that the principal sets the climate, and my life was happier when I knew the principal was able to respect the teachers and lead by example.  .    I also, substituted in another school after being let go.  This is when I decided to give up teaching altogether.  There was a teacher retiring, very young age wise, but after 22 years of teaching.  One reason she was retiring was because she was given a poor evaluation the year before by the new principal.    As I came to work in that building pretty much on a daily basis, I came to find out he was a nice man, but moral was declining rapidly.   I’ll add to this, to me an excellent teacher is a person who likes children, who sees the best in all the children in front of her or him, and motivates them to do their best.  This teacher did this and I did this, however our principals did not see this.  Interview your principal as he or she interviews you.  Teaching is tough and it is very important that there is mutual respect between teacher and principal.At this time, I will refer back to your first blog that I read “Student Teacher Grading”.  I loved this part and I quote: “Without the different grades, where is the incentive to achieve excellence, if in the end it won’t matter?”  I hope you do not get too discouraged, because you are entering a profession (I use that term loosely.)  Where everyone gets a raise based on time on the job, or extra degrees which you may have to pay for out of pocket.  Not on the actual work accomplished.  The only other way you make extra money is by coaching or extracurricular activities, where you get paid an extra stipend.   This does not include the extra committees you are requested to take part, which make you look good to administration.  You are right when you say people do not have a clue, when they say Teachers only work during school hours for not only, do you have planning and correcting, you have endless meetings to attend.   “Meetings (Committee Meetings) take minutes and waste hours.”  Communication with parents is extremely important, but if done correctly can save you time in the long run.  As you probably guessed, I have much more to say, but I am going to stop for now.

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